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key fob not working
Hi guys, it's been a wee while since i posted. The A8 was running well with no real problems except for the wing mirrors going dark now and then (I found using the key in the ignition and cycling the glow plugs stopped the mirrors darkening 90% of the time).
A couple of weeks ago a woman pulled out from stationary traffic right in front of me and both cars got totalled. Luckily I was going slow, about 20mph so nobody was hurt but these A8s have a lot of inertia! Anyway.... new car and new problems. I bought a 2008 4.2TDi high miler from northern ireland. Big mistake buying on the basis of pictures. Yes it looked great in the pics and description but the pics conveniently didnt show any of the bad parts, no power boot lid for instance, toolbox missing etc. Generally good though, nice inside. Fully loaded did not mean fully loaded though. Paintwork took a fair bit of work to get looking presentable and will still need some more. Price was good though so was happy enough.... until...... Tried to lock it when I got home, key fob not working. will not lock the doors. Tried locking with the boot lock but it doesnt do the central locking. Used the drivers key but it doesnt seem to put the car to sleep and the next day the battery was totally flat. Often, with the key on my person the car will unlock (without pressing the button on the handle) but usually doesnt. None of the buttons on the key fob are working, although it will occasionally lock the car. I have changed the battery in the fob and did the synching procedure but still nothing. Can i program a random key (I have several audi keys of various ages, one is from the D2) to lock and unlock the car? I can buy from ebay, "audi" keys with rfid chips etc and blank blades. I can imagine that these can be programmed to the locking but will they actually start the car? Two of the door handles are coming up with fault codes and one central locking motor is coming up with a fault as well. I wonderif its the door handles that are stopping it from locking. Full auto scan results in next post... Thanks guys, gill
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Daily drive: 2008 A8 4.2TDi 2003 A8 4.0TDi. 4 zone climate, double glazing, Bose - dead Other cars: 1980 Land Rover Series 3, 2.25d, hydraulic winch,Van/station wagon/topless depending on my mood 1990 Land Rover 90 factory county station wagon with all the luxury additions, such as a clock and a tape player. 2007 A4 3.0TDi s-line cabriolet quattro 2000 A8 D2 2.8 quattro, looking for a new home - gone 2003 A6 3.0 quattro, in the way... anyone want any parts? - gone |
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Friday,08,June,2018,15:09:54:53651
VCDS -- Windows Based VAG/VAS Emulator Running on Windows 10 x64 VCDS Version: 17.1.0.0 Data version: 20170106 DS267.0 www.Ross-Tech.com Chassis Type: 4L0 Scan: 05 06 08 09 16 18 19 28 36 38 42 46 4F 52 53 62 65 6D 72 76 05-Acc/Start Auth. -- Status: Malfunction 0010 06-Seat Mem. Pass -- Status: OK 0000 08-Auto HVAC -- Status: Malfunction 0010 09-Cent. Elect. -- Status: Malfunction 0010 16-Steering wheel -- Status: Malfunction 0010 18-Aux. Heat -- Status: OK 0000 19-CAN Gateway -- Status: OK 0000 28-HVAC, Rear -- Status: OK 0000 36-Seat Mem. Drvr -- Status: OK 0000 38-Roof Electronics -- Status: Malfunction 0010 42-Door Elect, Driver -- Status: OK 0000 46-Central Conv. -- Status: OK 0000 4F-Centr. Electr. II -- Status: OK 0000 52-Door Elect, Pass. -- Status: OK 0000 53-Parking Brake -- Status: Malfunction 0010 62-Door, Rear Left -- Status: OK 0000 65-Tire Pressure -- Status: Malfunction 0010 6D-Trunk Elect. -- Status: OK 0000 72-Door, Rear Right -- Status: Malfunction 0010 76-Park Assist -- Status: OK 0000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 05: Acc/Start Auth. Labels: 4E0-910-131.lbl Part No SW: 4E0 910 131 HW: 4E0 907 181 A Component: FBS AUDID3 H12 0200 Revision: 02005112 Serial number: AUX3Z0H0339806 Coding: 0412672 Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200 VCID: 58BFEE45EBC2F881D7-800C Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX Component: ELV XXXX 5 Faults Found: 00193 - Rear Right Door Handle Touch Sensor (G418) 007 - Short to Ground - Intermittent Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 00100111 Fault Priority: 3 Fault Frequency: 14 Reset counter: 219 Mileage: 354800 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2018.04.26 Time: 20:38:12 00957 - Key 3 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 00100010 Fault Priority: 4 Fault Frequency: 12 Reset counter: 217 Mileage: 354832 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2018.04.28 Time: 15:31:48 00190 - Driver's Door Handle Touch Sensor (G415) 007 - Short to Ground - Intermittent Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 00100111 Fault Priority: 3 Fault Frequency: 4 Reset counter: 214 Mileage: 354864 km Time Indication: 0 00181 - Access/Start Authorization Antenna (in Rear bumper) (R136) 011 - Open Circuit Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 01101011 Fault Priority: 4 Fault Frequency: 0 Reset counter: 170 Mileage: 355040 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2018.05.09 Time: 10:10:02 00668 - Supply Voltage Terminal 30 002 - Lower Limit Exceeded - Intermittent Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 00100010 Fault Priority: 2 Fault Frequency: 3 Reset counter: 217 Mileage: 355056 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2018.05.23 Time: 00:00:18 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 06: Seat Mem. Pass Labels: None Part No SW: 4E0 910 760 D HW: 4E0 959 760 B Component: Sitzmemory BFS H02 0010 Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 5DS 008 795-03 Coding: 4063328 Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200 VCID: 24478AB5E70A6C618B-8070 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: None Part No SW: 4E0 910 043 B HW: 4E0 820 043 G Component: KLIMAAUTOMAT 017 0450 Revision: 00000032 Serial number: 00000000139084 Coding: 0088145 Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200 VCID: 1C37B255DF7A54A133-8048 2 Faults Found: 00065 - Rear Left Footwell Heater (Z42) 012 - Electrical Fault in Circuit Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 01101100 Fault Priority: 3 Fault Frequency: 1 Reset counter: 177 Mileage: 355412 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2018.06.07 Time: 20:59:53 Freeze Frame: Voltage: 11.10 V 00066 - Rear Right Footwell Heater (Z43) 004 - No Signal/Communication Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 01100100 Fault Priority: 3 Fault Frequency: 1 Reset counter: 177 Mileage: 355412 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2018.06.07 Time: 20:59:53 Freeze Frame: Voltage: 11.10 V ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 09: Cent. Elect. Labels: 4E0-910-279.lbl Part No: 4E0 910 279 S Component: ILM Fahrer H16 0240 Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200 VCID: 387F4EC54B82188137-FFFE Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 910 279 S Component: ILM Fahrer H16 0240 No Faults Found or DTCs not supported by controller or a communication error occurred ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 16: Steering wheel Labels: 4E0-910-549.lbl Part No SW: 4E0 910 549 A HW: 4E0 953 549 C Component: J0527 0410 Revision: 00H05000 Serial number: 90054073430102 Coding: 0112141 Shop #: WSC 02311 785 00200 VCID: 264390BD91369E7195-8072 Subsystem 1 - Part No: XXXXXXXXXXX Component: E0221 H02 0030 1 Fault Found: 01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285) 004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 00100100 Fault Priority: 4 Fault Frequency: 2 Reset counter: 217 Mileage: 0 km Time Indication: 0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 18: Aux. Heat Labels: None Part No SW: 4E0 910 105 A HW: 4E0 815 069 G Component: Heizgeraet H08 0140 Revision: 0000000C Serial number: 00000009013887 Coding: 0000001 Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000 VCID: 1A3BB44DD54E2A9121-804E No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 19: CAN Gateway Labels: 4L0-910-468.clb Part No SW: 4L0 910 468 A HW: 4L0 907 468 B Component: J533__Gateway H06 0060 Revision: 00H06000 Serial number: 1100B08108817C Coding: F5FDDFFF707A0E00 Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200 VCID: 2D516F91B4C0AD2954-8078 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 28: HVAC, Rear Labels: None Part No SW: 4E0 910 158 HW: 4E0 919 158 D Component: KLIMA-STG. FOND 017 0230 Revision: 00000020 Serial number: 00000000065249 Coding: 0000000 Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000 VCID: 61C9C3A1B8983949A0-8034 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 36: Seat Mem. Drvr Labels: None Part No SW: 4E0 910 760 D HW: 4E0 959 760 B Component: Sitzmemory FS H02 0010 Revision: 00000000 Serial number: 5DS 008 795-03 Coding: 4063338 Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200 VCID: 24478AB5E70A6C618B-8070 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 38: Roof Electronics Labels: 4E0-910-135.lbl Part No SW: 4E0 910 135 A HW: 4E0 907 135 A Component: Dachknoten D3 H05 0090 Serial number: 00000735200005 Coding: 0035988 Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200 VCID: 1D31BF51C4605DA9C4-8048 2 Faults Found: 00308 - Supply Voltage for Motors for Sunroof/sunroof Shade 000 - - - Intermittent Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 00100000 Fault Priority: 0 Fault Frequency: 1 Reset counter: 204 Mileage: 262136 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2018.05.02 Time: 10:12:00 01370 - Alarm triggered by Interior Monitoring 000 - - - Intermittent Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 00100000 Fault Priority: 0 Fault Frequency: 2 Reset counter: 217 Mileage: 262136 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2018.06.07 Time: 20:17:00 Freeze Frame: Bin. Bits: 00000000 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 42: Door Elect, Driver Labels: 4E1-910-802-42.lbl Part No SW: 4E1 910 802 B HW: 4E2 959 802 F Component: Türsteuer.FS BRM005 0180 Coding: 0028462 Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200 VCID: 204F86A5F3127041EF-8074 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 46: Central Conv. Labels: 4E0-910-289.lbl Part No SW: 4E0 910 289 E HW: 4E0 907 289 E Component: Komfortgeraet H10 0030 Revision: 00300010 Serial number: W040801140031 Coding: 0004824 Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200 VCID: 2B5561898AD4A3194A-807E Subsystem 1 - Part No: 4E0 907 719 Component: Neigungssensor H05 0020 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 4F: Centr. Electr. II Labels: None Part No SW: 4E0 910 280 A HW: 4E0 907 280 D Component: ILM Beifahrer H11 0070 Revision: Serial number: 00000000016729 Coding: 0010101 Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200 VCID: 1E33B85DC96646B1DD-804A No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 52: Door Elect, Pass. Labels: 4E1-910-802-52.lbl Part No SW: 4E1 910 802 B HW: 4E2 959 801 F Component: Türsteuer.BF BRM005 0180 Coding: 0028462 Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200 VCID: 204F86A5F3127041EF-8074 No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 53: Parking Brake Labels: 4E0-910-801.clb Part No SW: 4E0 910 801 D HW: 4E0 907 801 B Component: EPB A4EC0230 H03 0230 Revision: --H03--- Coding: 0001031 Shop #: WSC 00046 000 00000 VCID: 204F86A5F3127041EF-8074 1 Fault Found: 01315 - Transmission Control Module 004 - No Signal/Communication - Intermittent Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 00100100 Fault Priority: 4 Fault Frequency: 1 Reset counter: 212 Mileage: 0 km Time Indication: 0 Freeze Frame: Voltage: 10.35 V Count: 243 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 62: Door, Rear Left Labels: 4E0-910-802.lbl Part No SW: 4E0 910 802 A HW: 4E0 959 801 D Component: Türsteuer.HL BRM005 0180 Coding: 0028462 Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200 VCID: 1E33B85DC96646B1DD-804A No fault code found. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 65: Tire Pressure Labels: 4E0-910-273.lbl Part No SW: 4E0 910 273 A HW: 4F0 907 273 A Component: Reifendruck 3 H05 Revision: 00050340 Serial number: 00000700055896 Coding: 0212328 Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200 VCID: 204F86A5F3127041EF-8074 1 Fault Found: 01521 - Sensor for Tire Pressure 004 - No Signal/Communication - MIL ON Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 11100100 Fault Priority: 3 Fault Frequency: 245 Reset counter: 0 Mileage: 354833 km Time Indication: 0 Date: 2018.04.28 Time: 15:31:55 Freeze Frame: (no units): 0.0 Temperature: 12.0°C Error Code: 0 Not Recogn. Not Recogn. Not Recogn. Not Recogn. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 6D: Trunk Elect. Cannot be reached ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 72: Door, Rear Right Labels: 4E0-910-802.lbl Part No SW: 4E0 910 802 A HW: 4E0 959 802 D Component: Türsteuer.HR BRM005 0180 Coding: 0028462 Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200 VCID: 1E33B85DC96646B1DD-804A 1 Fault Found: 02115 - Locking Unit for Central Locking 008 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent Freeze Frame: Fault Status: 00101000 Fault Priority: 2 Fault Frequency: 0 Reset counter: 216 Mileage: 0 km Time Indication: 0 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 4E0-910-283.lbl Part No SW: 4E0 910 283 C HW: 4E0 919 283 C Component: Parkhilfe 8-Kan H12 0040 Revision: 00H12000 Serial number: 08720801001065 Coding: 0221008 Shop #: WSC 02313 785 00200 VCID: 234589A9E2046B59F2-8076 No fault code found. End-------------------------(Elapsed Time: 02:43)--------------------------
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Daily drive: 2008 A8 4.2TDi 2003 A8 4.0TDi. 4 zone climate, double glazing, Bose - dead Other cars: 1980 Land Rover Series 3, 2.25d, hydraulic winch,Van/station wagon/topless depending on my mood 1990 Land Rover 90 factory county station wagon with all the luxury additions, such as a clock and a tape player. 2007 A4 3.0TDi s-line cabriolet quattro 2000 A8 D2 2.8 quattro, looking for a new home - gone 2003 A6 3.0 quattro, in the way... anyone want any parts? - gone |
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Try calling Craig from Auto Solutions - he came to our annual meet and does key cutting and coding but he also travels the country and would be able to call in on you when he is next up there -
http://www.autosolutions-autolocksmi...contact-us.php
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Cheers, i will drop him a line. May need something a little sooner though.
Another thing I just remembered after going to the shop. It keeps telling me that the key battery is dead, even though it is brand new. not every time by any means but often enough to be annoying. I am just using the ignition slot just now instead of the keyless.
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Daily drive: 2008 A8 4.2TDi 2003 A8 4.0TDi. 4 zone climate, double glazing, Bose - dead Other cars: 1980 Land Rover Series 3, 2.25d, hydraulic winch,Van/station wagon/topless depending on my mood 1990 Land Rover 90 factory county station wagon with all the luxury additions, such as a clock and a tape player. 2007 A4 3.0TDi s-line cabriolet quattro 2000 A8 D2 2.8 quattro, looking for a new home - gone 2003 A6 3.0 quattro, in the way... anyone want any parts? - gone |
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Small point but you appear to say that you're unlocking your car by pressing the button on the handle. That button is for locking the car, and once locked it should unlock when you grab the handle to pull it to open the door, no button pressing required.
Best of luck sorting this out.
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Sorry that's me being unclear. Sometimes the car unlocks just by grabbing the handle but usually doesn't. The only time it does is on the few occasions that the car has successfully locked with the button on the fob.
The car never locks by pressing the button on the handle and it rarely locks by pressing the button on the fob. 95% of the time the buttons on the fob do nothing. Usually I have to lock the car by turning the lock on the drivers door manually with the key and then pushing the door fully closed (obviously the handle is up to fit the key under so it doesnt fully shut) This method however doesnt seem to put the car to sleep and the battery is dead by the morning. None of the buttons on the doors lock the car. Basically after spending thousands on a much newer A8, I'm back to carrying a spare battery because i have no faith that I will be able to start the thing again.
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Daily drive: 2008 A8 4.2TDi 2003 A8 4.0TDi. 4 zone climate, double glazing, Bose - dead Other cars: 1980 Land Rover Series 3, 2.25d, hydraulic winch,Van/station wagon/topless depending on my mood 1990 Land Rover 90 factory county station wagon with all the luxury additions, such as a clock and a tape player. 2007 A4 3.0TDi s-line cabriolet quattro 2000 A8 D2 2.8 quattro, looking for a new home - gone 2003 A6 3.0 quattro, in the way... anyone want any parts? - gone |
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Wee update on this one, I'll start from the start.
Bought car, got message that key battery was low. Next morning wouldnt start, car battery flat. Bought a pack of (generic, no name) batteries for the key fob and fitted one. Still didnt work. Tried another battery. Nothing. Eventually bought a new key of ebay, used genuine advanced key, with the intention of fitting a blank blade and getting it programmed. For some reason I decided to swap the battery from the new key into the old one - phillips battery. Car unlocked a couple of times as it should and locked with the fob. Then back to square one. Change key battery every tme car started. On a whim I bought a pack of duracell batteries and tried on the key fob. Has worked every time since. Still doesnt lock with the button on the handle but locks with the fob and unlocks just by pulling on the handle. Moral of the story... It appears the A8 is a battery snob. If you're having this issue and you're using cheapo batteries, try a name brand one in it.
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Daily drive: 2008 A8 4.2TDi 2003 A8 4.0TDi. 4 zone climate, double glazing, Bose - dead Other cars: 1980 Land Rover Series 3, 2.25d, hydraulic winch,Van/station wagon/topless depending on my mood 1990 Land Rover 90 factory county station wagon with all the luxury additions, such as a clock and a tape player. 2007 A4 3.0TDi s-line cabriolet quattro 2000 A8 D2 2.8 quattro, looking for a new home - gone 2003 A6 3.0 quattro, in the way... anyone want any parts? - gone |
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Glad you have made progress! Get a VCDS scan done, £ to a penny it will show a faulty handle which will explain the ongoing issue
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