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Old 1st September 2012, 03:43 PM
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Default What have I broken, or is it just a fuse?

I went to change a bulb in the boot, the forward-facing one in the rear sill, intending to put a "better" LED in as I have a couple spare.

While I was at it I checked the 2 in the boot roof to see what they were, but left them alone. Just popped the holders out, had a look and put them back.

While trying different bulbs in the sill holder I realised they had all gone dim and eventually went off, apart from the one I was changing which was just very dim.
Then going into the car I realised all the courtesy lights were dead too, only the map lights would come on at all, again dimly.

I figured I must have done something, but what?

And finally the indicators didn't flash when locking or unlocking the car.
It starts and runs OK and the indicators work normally.
And the puddle lights and footwell lights are OK too, as are the mirror lights in the sun visors.

There's no relevant references in my drivers handbook so I'm guessing it's something in the footwell "box of tricks"

Thoughts anyone?
(moved here from wrong area if you see a duplicate )
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Old 1st September 2012, 04:20 PM
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Just to be sure I did a VCDS scan, expecting to find nothing as I assume this is "below the radar" simple stuff. I wasn't disappointed.
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2016 Volvo V40 T5 Cross Country (4WD) with ALL the toys including adaptive cruise etc. etc. Osmium Grey with Blonde/Charcoal leather interior. Polestar performance "optimisation". (Even rarer than a D2 S8!) Oh, and a brand new engine at just under 30,000 miles on the factory one!
Finally: gone, but not forgotten.....
1998 D2 PF S8. Agate Grey/Platinum. Every option (I think) except electric rear seats, Tiptronic steering wheel, ski hatch, towbar & dimming door mirrors.
e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course. (internal dimming mirror added later)
1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon. Added Auto-dim mirror, Leather seats, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer.
And before that a lot of Rover 800s, a few oddities, a lovely Triumph Dolomite 1850HL with Overdrive and way back in my schooldays an Austin Seven aka Mini 850!
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Old 1st September 2012, 06:15 PM
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Maybe you have a short now. Reseat them and see how they go.
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Old 1st September 2012, 06:28 PM
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Tried that already, I even took all the bulbs out in the boot. No joy.
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2016 Volvo V40 T5 Cross Country (4WD) with ALL the toys including adaptive cruise etc. etc. Osmium Grey with Blonde/Charcoal leather interior. Polestar performance "optimisation". (Even rarer than a D2 S8!) Oh, and a brand new engine at just under 30,000 miles on the factory one!
Finally: gone, but not forgotten.....
1998 D2 PF S8. Agate Grey/Platinum. Every option (I think) except electric rear seats, Tiptronic steering wheel, ski hatch, towbar & dimming door mirrors.
e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course. (internal dimming mirror added later)
1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon. Added Auto-dim mirror, Leather seats, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer.
And before that a lot of Rover 800s, a few oddities, a lovely Triumph Dolomite 1850HL with Overdrive and way back in my schooldays an Austin Seven aka Mini 850!
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Old 1st September 2012, 06:32 PM
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sounds like an earth problem maybe, have you tried a tester on any of the affected lamps? also what is the condition of the battery like and is the effect the same with or without the engine started?
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Battery is fine and it's all the same with or without the engine running. I'll check the contacts for voltages as I guess there could be a short somewhere in the wiring.
Odd that the interior (cabin) lights are affected as well as I didn't touch them (just the boot) - is there some sort of central controller somewhere?
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2016 Volvo V40 T5 Cross Country (4WD) with ALL the toys including adaptive cruise etc. etc. Osmium Grey with Blonde/Charcoal leather interior. Polestar performance "optimisation". (Even rarer than a D2 S8!) Oh, and a brand new engine at just under 30,000 miles on the factory one!
Finally: gone, but not forgotten.....
1998 D2 PF S8. Agate Grey/Platinum. Every option (I think) except electric rear seats, Tiptronic steering wheel, ski hatch, towbar & dimming door mirrors.
e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course. (internal dimming mirror added later)
1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon. Added Auto-dim mirror, Leather seats, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer.
And before that a lot of Rover 800s, a few oddities, a lovely Triumph Dolomite 1850HL with Overdrive and way back in my schooldays an Austin Seven aka Mini 850!
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Old 1st September 2012, 07:22 PM
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have you tried a tester on any of the affected lamps?
What specifically would you be looking for? My electrical/electronic logic isn't too good tonight, especially as I don't know where the power for them comes from and how they're switched.
The cabin lights for example would fade out normally so there must be some sort of electronics doing that and it's been disabled so they don't work at all, not even with the switch "on". I have no idea what the boot lights do but fading seems irrelevant so unlikely.

Anyone got circuit diagrams showing where/how the boot lights are powered and switched? Or even just where the relevant fuse is?
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Finally: gone, but not forgotten.....
1998 D2 PF S8. Agate Grey/Platinum. Every option (I think) except electric rear seats, Tiptronic steering wheel, ski hatch, towbar & dimming door mirrors.
e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course. (internal dimming mirror added later)
1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon. Added Auto-dim mirror, Leather seats, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer.
And before that a lot of Rover 800s, a few oddities, a lovely Triumph Dolomite 1850HL with Overdrive and way back in my schooldays an Austin Seven aka Mini 850!
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Old 1st September 2012, 07:49 PM
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This thread looks relevant: http://forum.a8parts.co.uk/showthread.php?t=346 But where is the fuse referred to there?
(my central locking works fine apart from the flash of the indicators)
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Finally: gone, but not forgotten.....
1998 D2 PF S8. Agate Grey/Platinum. Every option (I think) except electric rear seats, Tiptronic steering wheel, ski hatch, towbar & dimming door mirrors.
e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course. (internal dimming mirror added later)
1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon. Added Auto-dim mirror, Leather seats, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer.
And before that a lot of Rover 800s, a few oddities, a lovely Triumph Dolomite 1850HL with Overdrive and way back in my schooldays an Austin Seven aka Mini 850!
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where is the fuse referred to there?
Right I think I've identified which that is: Front right footwell fuse panel, carrier 5 (brown), Fuse 1, 10A
The Owners Manual says - Pump for central locking, anti-theft alarm diode, interior lights.

And the alarm diode is no longer flashing when the car is locked.
So it all sounds very plausible. I'll be in there in the morning.

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There's no relevant references in my drivers handbook
Well it turns out there was, but I missed it.
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2016 Volvo V40 T5 Cross Country (4WD) with ALL the toys including adaptive cruise etc. etc. Osmium Grey with Blonde/Charcoal leather interior. Polestar performance "optimisation". (Even rarer than a D2 S8!) Oh, and a brand new engine at just under 30,000 miles on the factory one!
Finally: gone, but not forgotten.....
1998 D2 PF S8. Agate Grey/Platinum. Every option (I think) except electric rear seats, Tiptronic steering wheel, ski hatch, towbar & dimming door mirrors.
e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course. (internal dimming mirror added later)
1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon. Added Auto-dim mirror, Leather seats, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer.
And before that a lot of Rover 800s, a few oddities, a lovely Triumph Dolomite 1850HL with Overdrive and way back in my schooldays an Austin Seven aka Mini 850!

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Old 1st September 2012, 10:14 PM
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Default Central locking pump

The central locking pump in the boot around the area where you were working maybe there is a loose wire or some moisture getting in somewhere that made it blow....dont know why I thought of that....maybe wildly wrong!!!!

I have to say always sounded like a fuse...I remember when I lost power to the instrument cluster when I was doing the rns e fit.....I had blown a fuse but it was a totally random one which took me ages to find as the fuse diagram was no help....so first thing I always do in these situations is do a continuity test across all the fuses in the drivers footwell just for my own sanity.

Then I go from there.
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