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Old 7th April 2023, 04:13 AM
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Default Road Tax gone up again !

the crafty robbing gits

most annoyingly again the 2017-on cars have now increaced from £140 to £180

old V10 S8 etc £695

i can feel an MGBGT coming on (maybe not)

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Old 7th April 2023, 06:48 AM
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My S8 was £360
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Old 7th April 2023, 08:11 AM
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My S8 was £360
I drive about 12000 miles a year:
  • In two of my four cars I do about 500 miles a year and that costs me over over £500 a year in tax (i.e. more than a pound a mile - before fuel costs) and
  • I do over 95% of the rest of the 12000 miles in one of the other two, and that costs me nothing in tax (or fuel...)

Great tax system...
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Old 7th April 2023, 03:58 PM
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My S8 was £360

£395 now for a D2
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Old 8th April 2023, 01:38 AM
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Drop in the ocean compared to buying, depreciation, maintaining and insuring, who cares
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Old 8th April 2023, 12:39 PM
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Talking of insuring, just had my renewal, increase is about 35%. I'll bet that is down to claiming for a new windscreen last year.
Anyone know what a D2 (non-heated) windscreen costs to replace?
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Old 8th April 2023, 07:03 PM
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Talking of insuring, just had my renewal, increase is about 35%. I'll bet that is down to claiming for a new windscreen last year.
Anyone know what a D2 (non-heated) windscreen costs to replace?
My renewal for the RS6 was 46% up on last year, bit strange as I've had no claims. Managed to get it for less than last years cost though. As Sarg says VED is a very small cost of running a car TBH
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Old 8th April 2023, 10:39 PM
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Drop in the ocean compared to buying, depreciation, maintaining and insuring, who cares
Not really:
  1. Buying isn't relevant, as that's capital expenditure, not an annual operating cost (which VED is),
  2. Annual insurance (for me, anyway, for all my cars subject to tax) is less than the VED
  3. Depreciation? What depreciation? All 3 of my cars that are subject to VED seem to be appreciating in value, including my S8

So I care, and I'm probably not the only one.
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Old 9th April 2023, 11:41 AM
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The Tax system needs reviewing but Government takes things slowly & road taxing wouldn’t be popular and could be unfair too (eg small, efficient petrol car does school run etc in a rural area racks up the miles).
I live in London and do 3K miles a year and I’m looking at buying an S8 and a two seater, about £1K in VED feels a lot.
Or Historic Vehicle exempt is now up to 1982!
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Old 9th April 2023, 12:19 PM
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Talking of insuring, just had my renewal, increase is about 35%. I'll bet that is down to claiming for a new windscreen last year.
Anyone know what a D2 (non-heated) windscreen costs to replace?
Does your insurance not have windscreen cover, whereby you only pay a small fee around £65, and it doesn't affect your premium? I had the rear window on the S8 replaced and the renewal price didn't increase.

In terms of costs of screens, over £500 just for the glass. Over £700 for the heated versions.
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