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Old 22nd September 2013, 09:35 PM
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Firstly I'm no mechanic, so apologies for the dumb questions and the lack of understanding of how cars actually work. I only drive them

Following on from a post about the gear selector lights all on and difficult gear change, it was suggested I get the car scanned. Got it done earlier this evening, and have the results. It listed quite a few, so sorry for the long post.

Chassis Type: 4D - Audi A8 D2
Scan: 01 03 08 11 15 16 17 18 25 35 37 45 55 56 57 65 67 75 76 77
02

VIN: WAUZZZ4D92N002072
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Address 01: Engine Labels: None
Part No: 4D0 907 558 AB
Component: 3.7L V8/5V G 0002
Coding: 11753
Shop #: WSC 23143
VCID: 6DDBD76D278ADF1
WAUZZZ4D92N002072 AUZ7Z0A1855153

6 Faults Found:
17831 - Secondary Air Injection System; Bank 1
P1423 - 35-00 - Insufficient Flow
17819 - Secondary Air Injection System; Bank 2
P1411 - 35-00 - Insufficient Flow
16500 - Engine Coolant Temp. Sensor (G62)
P0116 - 35-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent
17538 - Fuel Trim; Bank 2 (Mult)
P1130 - 35-10 - System too Lean - Intermittent
17536 - Fuel Trim; Bank 1 (Mult)
P1128 - 35-10 - System too Lean - Intermittent
17521 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor; B1 S1
P1113 - 35-10 - Internal Resistance too High - Intermittent
Readiness: 0010 0101

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Address 03: ABS Brakes Labels: 8D0-907-389.lbl
Part No: 4D0 907 389 E
Component: ABS/ESP allrad D56
Coding: 08397
Shop #: WSC 02313
VCID: 31630B1DFB327B1

2 Faults Found:
01435 - Brake Pressure Sensor 1 (G201)
48-10 - Supply Voltage - Intermittent
01119 - Gear Recognition Signal
35-10 - - - Intermittent

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Address 08: Auto HVAC Labels: 4D0-820-043-MYX.lbl
Part No: 4D0 820 043 P
Component: A8-Klimavollautomat D11
Coding: 00081
Shop #: WSC 00315
VCID: 2953E37DD3E2031

No fault code found.

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Address 15: Airbags Labels: 4D0-959-655-AI8.lbl
Part No: 4D0 959 655 T
Component: Airbag Front+Kopf 5001
Coding: 01417
Shop #: WSC 02335
VCID: 438F51D5518EF91

No fault code found.

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Address 17: Instruments Labels: 4D0-919-033-MYX.lbl
Part No: 4D0 919 035 AQ
Component: KOMBI+WEGFAHRS.VDO D37
Coding: 16483
Shop #: WSC 00209
VCID: 75EBFF0D4FDA171
WAUZZZ4D92N002072 AUZ7Z0A1855153

No fault code found.

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Address 35: Centr. Locks Labels: 8D0-862-257.lbl
Part No: 8L0 862 257 P
Component: CV-Pump, Alarm, RC D17
Coding: 15179
Shop #: WSC 00315
VCID: 428154D14E94F09

1 Fault Found:
01134 - Alarm Horn (H12)
49-00 - No Communications

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Address 37: Navigation Labels: 4B0-035-192-RNSD-37.lbl
Part No: 4D0 035 192 N
Component: RNS 4.1 H05 BNO 0017
VCID: 2A511C71D6E4089

1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 56: Radio Labels: 4B0-035-192-RNSD-56.lbl
Part No: 4D0 035 192 N
Component: Radio BNO 0001
Coding: 00205
Shop #: WSC 02314
VCID: 2A511C71D6E4089

1 Fault Found:
01317 - Control Module in Instrument Cluster (J285)
49-10 - No Communications - Intermittent

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Address 57: TV Tuner Labels: 4D0-919-146.clb
Part No: 4D0 919 146 B
Component: TV Tuner H06 0704
Coding: 0000030
Shop #: WSC 00000 000 00000
VCID: 2855E67998E83A9

No fault code found.

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Address 76: Park Assist Labels: 4D0-919-283.lbl
Part No: 4D0 919 283
Component: Parkingsystem A8 RDW D07
Coding: 01108
Shop #: WSC 00209
VCID: E8D5267988687A9

No fault code found.

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Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
Part No: 4D0 927 156 DT
Component: AG5 01V 3.7l5V RdW 1920
Coding: 00001
Shop #: WSC 00000
VCID: 7EF9E0217AEC549

1 Fault Found:
17090 - Transmission Range Sensor (F125)
P0706 - 35-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

I'm not sure what's relevant and what's not, so decided to post the lot, rather than try to shorten it.

So far as I can tell, the car runs great. It turns over instantly and sounds sweet as. I think the performance is great, but then I've never driven a 3.7 V8 before. Fuel consumption averages 25mpg. Drives fine at all speeds, from town to motorway, and cruising at 80mph for a hour or so. S mode's brilliant when overtaking. No issues with brakes that I'm aware of. Alarm horn definitely doesn't work. No issues with radio or navigation. The only issues that I am aware of that don't throw up an error is that something is blowing the fuse for the interior lights - can replace it, but will blow 24-48 hours later. I also have a small rattle from the drivers door and noticed the other night that the rear window isolation switch was flickering, so that may be the culprit.

However, I suppose what I'm looking for is any pointers on what to attack first. Obviously the engine codes are priority, but could one be a knock-on from something else?
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Old 22nd September 2013, 10:09 PM
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You have a note of the codes. Good.
Unless you have an obvious, immediate and urgent problem just clear them all.
Then check again a few days, then weeks later and see what returns and how frequently, noting and clearing each time.

For example, on my current car I get an intermittent warning about the central potentiometer on the heating controls (the cold/warm one by the 3 central vents) - who cares!
And I occasionally get one you have: 01119 - Gear Recognition Signal 35-10 - - - Intermittent, which apparently can have a multitude of causes, often related to the ABS system.
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Old 22nd September 2013, 10:20 PM
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You have a note of the codes. Good.
Unless you have an obvious, immediate and urgent problem just clear them all.
Then check again a few days, then weeks later and see what returns and how frequently, noting and clearing each time.

For example, on my current car I get an intermittent warning about the central potentiometer on the heating controls (the cold/warm one by the 3 central vents) - who cares!
And I occasionally get one you have: 01119 - Gear Recognition Signal 35-10 - - - Intermittent, which apparently can have a multitude of causes, often related to the ABS system.
Cheers. Will get them cleared tomorrow and check again next weekend. From my experience of the car to date, none of them appear to be causing any issues. Will be interesting to see how it drives if all the codes stay away. My main concern at the moment I have to test tomorrow (from another post), with regards to stiff gear change from P to R parked on a hill.
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The stiff gear change when parked on a hill is normal. The park setting is a mechanical interlock where a cam physically locks into one of the cogs. If you are on a hill and there is even the smallest amount of creep the cam will become hard up against the cog tooth. Try putting your hand brake on. Stopping the engine then select park when facing both up hill and down hill. HtH.
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A quick follow-up on the codes. Visited a mechanic yesterday to see if he would do a service on the car. We went through the list and he cleared all the codes. Just did another scan and most have stayed away. Still getting the following though:

Address 01: Engine Labels: None
17521 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor; B1 S1
P1113 - 35-10 - Internal Resistance too High - Intermittent
Readiness: 0010 0101

Address 02: Auto Trans Labels: 01V-927-156.lbl
17090 - Transmission Range Sensor (F125)
P0706 - 35-10 - Implausible Signal - Intermittent

Still have the ones at addresses 35, 37 and 56 but not worried about those yet.

So, I've ordered the F125 switch from A8parts and getting a full set of filters for the service. I've also decided to get the transmission seal replaced as I've noticed a burning smell. The question is should I replace the lambda sensors as well since the mechanic will be working around that area of the car?
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I would change both pre-cat lambdas. I had the same lambda code on one bank, changed it, then a month later the other bank lambda started to go too. May as well do both at once.

On my new S8 the Secondaty Air Injection pump, used only to warm up cats on cold start (to reduce emissions), also doesnt work, I get the same code intermittently.
Personally I'm not goint to repair it as I think its pointless. I asked MRC tuning to code it out and then I'm going to rip that crap out of there
Also going to get post-cat lambdas coded out too at the same time.
Did you know pre-facelifts have none of this rubbish, no SAI, no post-cat lambdas.
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Heyas,

Sorry to resurrect the thread, figured I'd use it instead of opening a new discussion.

The same fault code appeared recently out of the blue on my FL A8:
17521 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor; B1 S1
P1113 - 35-10 - Internal Resistance too High - Intermittent

Could this be linked to the fact that because it was whining quite loudly every time I started the car up in the cold, I removed the SAI?


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No. Heater element in lambda sensor is faulty or poor connection in wiring.
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