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From what I understood there is no FTTC available, only copper wire from exchange to house so distance from exchange does matter and at very best in ideal world next to exchange would be 24MBps
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There will be a cabinet, and 99.99% of these are now FTTC. Surely you'd never see copper from a residential house direct to the exchange.
Mike did say 1/2 mile copper up a country lane, which if it going to a FTC cabinet should see 35-40mbps download speeds. The big point is it'll cost £19.99 to get the line installed by BT/OR (others may charge more), then you have 14 days to cool off from any contract if the speed is not any good, it's a no brainer for me to spend £20 to find out if a landline will work, when a landline will always be preferable to mobile with current tech. One of the benefits living rurally is there is generally less traffic on the bandwidth to/from the local cabinet. I also have almost zero wi-fi band clashes as have no nearby neighbours I just found the last speedtest result of the 5G router I had before it went back: 9.75mbps download 0.75mbps upload !!! 46ms ping 17ms jitter A week before was: 14.6mbps download 20.9mbps upload !!! 28ms ping 8.5ms jitter Very inconsistent as you can see. Also gave constant DNS connection problems, even for regularly visited websites (BBC News for example). Netflix would run okay (because Netflix are clever), once I could get the smart TV to actually see the SSID, but streaming Sky or iPlayer was useless/unwatchable
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Personally I (being old school) would always get a landline phone anyway, if only as backup when mobile services fail. Then you can at least try the broadband and as noted above cancel it if it's useless.
It's not clear what FTTC coverage is like in that area, only BT will know as and when you place an order...…. Quote:
I'm about 1km as the crow flies from the exchange (cable route is longer) and get about 20mbps. Our FTTC cabinet is actually much nearer the exchange than our house so though it would be faster it's not worth upgrading.
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2003 D2 FL S8. Irish Green Pearl/Beige. Solar sunroof, auto-dim mirrors, electric rear seat functions and extended leather. Ski hatch retrofit. Aftermarket reversing camera. DVB-T and XCarlink now removed as redundant. 2016 Volvo V40 T5 Cross Country (4WD) with ALL the toys including adaptive cruise etc. etc. Osmium Grey with Blonde/Charcoal leather interior. Polestar performance "optimisation". (Even rarer than a D2 S8!) Oh, and a brand new engine at just under 30,000 miles on the factory one! Finally: gone, but not forgotten..... 1998 D2 PF S8. Agate Grey/Platinum. Every option (I think) except electric rear seats, Tiptronic steering wheel, ski hatch, towbar & dimming door mirrors. e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course. (internal dimming mirror added later) 1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon. Added Auto-dim mirror, Leather seats, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer. And before that a lot of Rover 800s, a few oddities, a lovely Triumph Dolomite 1850HL with Overdrive and way back in my schooldays an Austin Seven aka Mini 850! Last edited by HPsauce; 12th November 2020 at 09:42 AM. |
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BT / Openreach / Virgin / etc have no interest in trying to run a fibre along 2 miles of poles along a single track road on top of a windy hill, and they're not allowed to dig up the road to run ducting so we'll never see high speed from ground-based providers here. The same applies to most rural locations in Devon and Cornwall so our only options are wireless services of one sort or another. For context, it's taken Elon Musk and SpaceX less time to develop a reusable rocket system from scratch and then design and deploy a network of high speed internet satellites than it has for Openreach to give a damn about the rural South West |
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2003 D2 FL S8. Irish Green Pearl/Beige. Solar sunroof, auto-dim mirrors, electric rear seat functions and extended leather. Ski hatch retrofit. Aftermarket reversing camera. DVB-T and XCarlink now removed as redundant. 2016 Volvo V40 T5 Cross Country (4WD) with ALL the toys including adaptive cruise etc. etc. Osmium Grey with Blonde/Charcoal leather interior. Polestar performance "optimisation". (Even rarer than a D2 S8!) Oh, and a brand new engine at just under 30,000 miles on the factory one! Finally: gone, but not forgotten..... 1998 D2 PF S8. Agate Grey/Platinum. Every option (I think) except electric rear seats, Tiptronic steering wheel, ski hatch, towbar & dimming door mirrors. e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course. (internal dimming mirror added later) 1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon. Added Auto-dim mirror, Leather seats, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer. And before that a lot of Rover 800s, a few oddities, a lovely Triumph Dolomite 1850HL with Overdrive and way back in my schooldays an Austin Seven aka Mini 850! |
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David, assuming you know the postcode for the new location, you could try using this site to lookup details for the BT/OR cabinets in the area:
https://www.telecom-tariffs.co.uk/codelook.htm 1. Enter your postcode in the relevant field (mine's already there) and click on 'Lookup Post Code' 2. Below the map, click on Locality field. To the right it should give potential speed of line 3. On the next screen, click on the 'All X Fibre Cabinets' to see their locations.
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My tuppence of experience
TL; DR summary
Fibre (Fibre to the Premises - FTTP) Technology that supports speeds up to 1Gbps (and more) Fibre to the Cabinet (FTTC) Technology that supports speeds up to 80Mbps ADSL2(21CN) around 20-24Mbps on a good day. 5 miles/8km from exchange is the theoretical limit and expect 1Mbps if a super stability profile is applied to your 'long line' Cable (Fibre to cabinet, coax cable to property) - I'm on a 200Mbps connection currently, but throttling is applied regularly by telco. An important thing to note - prior experience with customers tells me that not everyone understands that their connection speed to the router (via WiFi or ethernet) is not the same thing as how fast the their broadband connection is. I've enjoyed several discussions with people on the telephone where they're insisting it's connected at for example 54Mbps (802.11g) or 100Mbps (LAN/ethernet) but the speed test only shows 16Mbps or so. Even had someone say that "it didn't matter whether it's bits or bytes, I'm paying for a 20 Meg connection". I feel that attention to detail is important
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Sean I just did that (David sent me the postcode), the nearest FTTC cabinet is 2km away!
It's cabinet G8, on Drumfork Court, G84 7BS. Whether that supplies FTTC service to David's new home (and at what speed) only BT/Openreach can answer. Edit: I've just checked the distance and Google agrees that it's 2km by the shortest route...…..
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2003 D2 FL S8. Irish Green Pearl/Beige. Solar sunroof, auto-dim mirrors, electric rear seat functions and extended leather. Ski hatch retrofit. Aftermarket reversing camera. DVB-T and XCarlink now removed as redundant. 2016 Volvo V40 T5 Cross Country (4WD) with ALL the toys including adaptive cruise etc. etc. Osmium Grey with Blonde/Charcoal leather interior. Polestar performance "optimisation". (Even rarer than a D2 S8!) Oh, and a brand new engine at just under 30,000 miles on the factory one! Finally: gone, but not forgotten..... 1998 D2 PF S8. Agate Grey/Platinum. Every option (I think) except electric rear seats, Tiptronic steering wheel, ski hatch, towbar & dimming door mirrors. e.g. Cruise control, NavPlus/TV, Bose, GSM, Xenons, Solar roof, Parking sensors, Alcantara/leather everywhere of course. (internal dimming mirror added later) 1998 (very early) Ford Focus 1.8 Zetec; ABS/TCS, Heated screen/mirrors, Aircon. Added Auto-dim mirror, Leather seats, Trip computer, Cruise control, OEM Ford SatNav with CD changer. And before that a lot of Rover 800s, a few oddities, a lovely Triumph Dolomite 1850HL with Overdrive and way back in my schooldays an Austin Seven aka Mini 850! Last edited by HPsauce; 12th November 2020 at 11:30 AM. |
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Slightly less distance than how I'm connected. I did notice that those cabinets are ADSL and ADSL2+ which are better than mine and with 100% area up to 30MB. If nothing else, it's an indication of what could be available.
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2001 A8 D2 FL 3.7 Q - LPG Conversion, Engine: AKC, Gearbox:FBB, Colour:LY5X Aqua Blue pearl effect, Interior:WJ light beige/dark beige valcona leather with burr walnut inserts My DIY jobs - Replaced alarm horn, Replaced Coolant Temp sensor, Updated RNS-D firmware, Installed Reversing Camera and Digital TV, Dashcam Installation, Retrofitted Rear Blinds, Auto-Dimming Rear View Mirror, Chrome Boot Struts Sold! 2008 S8 D3 5.2 V10 - Engine: BSM, Gearbox:KLW, Colour:LY7F Suzuka Grey Pearl Effect, Interior:Black/Black with Silver/Black valcona leather with carbon atlas inserts, Bang & Olufsen, Heated windscreen, Soft-close doors, TV, DAB, AMI, Quad Zone, Auto Boot, Auto dim Mirrors, Keyless entry, PDC with rearview camera, AFS II Headlights My DIY jobs - Fan Jet Windscreen Washers, Retrofitted Electric Side Blinds |
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That's all a great help. Thanks all
Ive downloaded the 4G speed test app (tho i didn't get to try out it out today) and identified the master socket (Openreach Master Socket 5C). The guy next door uses an EE 4G router to provide connectivity and seems to think its good enough for HD netflix. The are 7 network cables (un-terminated) so it looks like an 8 port switch is sufficient. The trouble with cabinet P8 is that its across the fields and a torrential burn (stream) and not on a direct road route! However, I am now much better placed to understand the issues and find a way ahead. Many thanks all.
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