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21st April 2010, 08:36 PM
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Olis D3 W12 Brake Upgrade
Anyone know if these would possibly fit with 18" Sport wheels?
I have been considering upgrading to 19" RS6 wheels or 20" FE but would keep the Sport wheels if they fit. Thanks, Oli
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 CURRENT: 2006 Audi A8 D3 4.2 Tdi QS - CLICK HERE FOR PROJECT THREAD: Audi Exclusive Azure Blue, Amaretto brown interior, facelift rear lights, S8 mirrors, B&O, ACC, Digital TV, glass sunroof, Fridge, Extended Leather Pack 2, wooden steering wheel & gearknob, keyless entry, keyless start, electric boot, softclose doors SOLD : 2000 FL Silver D2 4.2 QS - Solar sunroof, Bose, Blinds, NavPlus, Playstation, DVD, wireless headphones, iPhone AV connection, RS6 steering wheel, chrome mirrors, phone prep, xenons, servotronic steering, Rear screen, TV-in-motion, NavPlus Alu rings, S8 exhaust, S8 bonnet grille, 385mm D3 S8 brakes, rubber winter mats, De-badged rear, US rear indicator clusters, 20" Final Edition diamond cut wheels, 15mm Eibach Pro spacers (front), 20mm H&R hubcentric spacers (rear). Audi A8/S8 D2 Flickr Group 
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21st April 2010, 08:47 PM
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Oli,
My set up is 380mm and fits comfortably under 19" wheels (RS6 reps) I am going to try them on 18" wheels as they do look like they will fit. Your disks are only 5mm bigger so they may fit under 18s. My 19s may be for sale soon.
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21st April 2010, 08:48 PM
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I think you'd struggle with 18s, would have thought 19" would be the minimum for 385mm discs.
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22nd April 2010, 11:16 AM
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Thanks for the feedback guys...sounds like it may fit.
If bigger wheels are needed, will probably be a while until these bad boys get put on ... they'll look sweet when done though! 
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CURRENT: 2006 Audi A8 D3 4.2 Tdi QS - CLICK HERE FOR PROJECT THREAD: Audi Exclusive Azure Blue, Amaretto brown interior, facelift rear lights, S8 mirrors, B&O, ACC, Digital TV, glass sunroof, Fridge, Extended Leather Pack 2, wooden steering wheel & gearknob, keyless entry, keyless start, electric boot, softclose doors SOLD : 2000 FL Silver D2 4.2 QS - Solar sunroof, Bose, Blinds, NavPlus, Playstation, DVD, wireless headphones, iPhone AV connection, RS6 steering wheel, chrome mirrors, phone prep, xenons, servotronic steering, Rear screen, TV-in-motion, NavPlus Alu rings, S8 exhaust, S8 bonnet grille, 385mm D3 S8 brakes, rubber winter mats, De-badged rear, US rear indicator clusters, 20" Final Edition diamond cut wheels, 15mm Eibach Pro spacers (front), 20mm H&R hubcentric spacers (rear). Audi A8/S8 D2 Flickr Group
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7th May 2010, 04:40 PM
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Not sure about the ABS sensors.. I'd suck it and see, but it should be fine as the hub is the same and it has the reluctor ring in it.
WRT the pad wear sensors.. You're probably going to have to chop it. I'd see abotu getting the correct conenctor for the car end and splicing that in to save hassle later. Or.. You could sell them on to a D3 owner at a knockdown price (hint, hint )
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#6
7th May 2010, 07:23 PM
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No need to change anything on the ABS sensors. The fit the hub carrier and read from the hub.
I did away with the pad sensors because I have a conscientious preventive maintenance process and know exactly how much pad wear I have!  Upgrading to DOT 5 or above depends on how serious a kicking your gonna give the brakes. can't do any harm!
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Conan (the Librarian) Watch it if you dare Currently, 2000 S8, Merlin Purple, Leather Pack 1, Winter Pack 1, SPAX adjustable suspension, AP Racing 6 pot front caliper, 385mm fully floating disks, EBC Yellow Stuff Pads, Black Diamond grooved rear disks and predetor pads, D2 Doctors Brake Block. 1997 4.2 A8SQ - the Projekt. 12 years and ongoing! 1997 4.2 A8SQ - Ming Blue. Restoration sat waiting; saved from the Scrapyard 2003 C5 Allroad 4.2Q - Cobolt Blue. Towing car. Laid up awaiting manual conversion. 2005 C5 Allroad 2.5TDi FE - Grey - Workhorse. 2015 Q3QS SLine - Daytona Grey. Lots of extras! Long Haired Admirals cutter. Previously 2003 C5 A6 1.9TDI FWD - Loaner from D2 Doctor Lifex 1997 S8 - Ming Blue. Loaned out and written off. I loved that car. My first engine swap after cambelt failure. 1996 4.2 A8SQ - Ming Blue. 178k on a cambelt! Trader's 8. Delivered to A8Parts at Lifex. 2003 2.8 A8SQ - powder blueish. Fill in for a while. Sold on. 1998 1.8T A4 Avant FWD. Ming Blue (there's a theme here), PEX for the 97 S8. And a list of non VAG going back 40 years before I saw the light.
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8th May 2010, 08:32 AM
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Thanks guys - really helpful.
Can i just cut off the sensor cables or would i be suffering from a DIS pad sensor fault displayed? Thanks again for your help...next weekend looks good for fitting them now - whoohoo! Oli
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CURRENT: 2006 Audi A8 D3 4.2 Tdi QS - CLICK HERE FOR PROJECT THREAD: Audi Exclusive Azure Blue, Amaretto brown interior, facelift rear lights, S8 mirrors, B&O, ACC, Digital TV, glass sunroof, Fridge, Extended Leather Pack 2, wooden steering wheel & gearknob, keyless entry, keyless start, electric boot, softclose doors SOLD : 2000 FL Silver D2 4.2 QS - Solar sunroof, Bose, Blinds, NavPlus, Playstation, DVD, wireless headphones, iPhone AV connection, RS6 steering wheel, chrome mirrors, phone prep, xenons, servotronic steering, Rear screen, TV-in-motion, NavPlus Alu rings, S8 exhaust, S8 bonnet grille, 385mm D3 S8 brakes, rubber winter mats, De-badged rear, US rear indicator clusters, 20" Final Edition diamond cut wheels, 15mm Eibach Pro spacers (front), 20mm H&R hubcentric spacers (rear). Audi A8/S8 D2 Flickr Group
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8th May 2010, 08:51 AM
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Yes, you can cut the sensor cables and join them up so that the circuit is 'shorted' to avoid a permanent pad wear DIS warning.
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#9
14th May 2010, 08:56 PM
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Hi,
So i had a go at this after work and i got to put the old and the new side by side for a moment - i was feeling pretty confident especially after seeing a post here of it just being a straight forward swap of parts...but he does appear to have different brakes to me...   Then as i tried to mount the first disc and caliper, i came to realise that the calipers actually seem to mount differently - please see the mounting points on the standard A8 caliper vs the new one...they mount on different sides of the bracket (if that makes sense) and no matter what i tried, it just didn't seem to be a standard bolt-on job.  I'm at a bit of a loss now...am i just not doing this right or is this setup just not as straight forward as i had hoped? If the latter, can i fix it somehow with brackets?! I was really hoping to get it done tonight and to test these uber brakes  Your advice much appreciated... Oli
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CURRENT: 2006 Audi A8 D3 4.2 Tdi QS - CLICK HERE FOR PROJECT THREAD: Audi Exclusive Azure Blue, Amaretto brown interior, facelift rear lights, S8 mirrors, B&O, ACC, Digital TV, glass sunroof, Fridge, Extended Leather Pack 2, wooden steering wheel & gearknob, keyless entry, keyless start, electric boot, softclose doors SOLD : 2000 FL Silver D2 4.2 QS - Solar sunroof, Bose, Blinds, NavPlus, Playstation, DVD, wireless headphones, iPhone AV connection, RS6 steering wheel, chrome mirrors, phone prep, xenons, servotronic steering, Rear screen, TV-in-motion, NavPlus Alu rings, S8 exhaust, S8 bonnet grille, 385mm D3 S8 brakes, rubber winter mats, De-badged rear, US rear indicator clusters, 20" Final Edition diamond cut wheels, 15mm Eibach Pro spacers (front), 20mm H&R hubcentric spacers (rear). Audi A8/S8 D2 Flickr Group
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#10
14th May 2010, 09:54 PM
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A D2 A8 to D3 S8 conversion was never going to be easy (talking from a supposedly straight swap B7 RS4 rear conversion).
You'll probably need some kind of caliper adapter. Talk to Ben at AVP for advice and don't sell them to Ian until you've given me first refusal. 
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