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The more expensive one is an AGM battery, which is used on stop-start cars. If your current one isn't AGM, I'd stick with the standard type
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The car has start-stop (it's always off though) and I guess has an AGM, all 3 I posted above are AGM although the Varta Silver Dynamic does not promote it. Hence why I am confused, is this all just marketing BS or am I missing something obvious. All of the batterys I have found are slightly smaller in width than the factory battery too.
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God this is a ball ache.
From tonight's reading, I have found that to code the new battery to the car you need a battery with a BEM code. Guess who sells them, yep Audi and no one else So screw that. This is what I will buy tomorrow once I have verified the dims one last time, its the closest I can find to what's in the car. https://www.tayna.co.uk/610-200-Vart...92--P3200.html Apparently if you don't recode the car after a new battery 2 things can happen. 1) Possibly shorter battery life but this is probably just a scare from Audi. 2) The cars electrics may not function correctly until the car has learnt that the battery is strong. As mine died overnight I assume the ECU has a stored a depleted battery status and the only way for the car to learn it has a new battery is by using the car, starting it over and over etc so it learns and begins to reactivate systems that are shut down to preserve battery power. Wonder if that's why you experienced issues with your new battery Peter? Cheers |
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Not sure if your car is the same, but I recently replaced the battery on my RS6 with a non OEM battery, a YUASA one actually. When recoding in the new battery my mechanic was able to use the details of the old OEM battery which it happily accepted, seems as long as it knows it has a new battery it's happy, hope yours is as easy
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Brian, yes I read that any details will do provided you can get the car to accept them. Seems like its a load of tosh, resetting the ECU/BCM so it knows it has a new battery is what matters I gather. I guess I will see how I get on without this in a couple of days.
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Have a read of http://wiki.ross-tech.com/wiki/index...ry_Replacement, the "trick" on the D3 was to use the old battery data but to change the last number of the serial number for the BCM thinks it is actually a "genuine" new battery, not sure if that will work with the D4 though!? In any case, good luck |
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six months and still a problem! Hopefully the BCM was the cause of this but what are we coming to when you cannot safely jump a car and need to spend hours learning how to change a battery. Its madness.
If I can get the car going then I will be happy as I can have the car reprogrammed by an Audi specialist next month. Cheers |
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The new battery arrived today from Tanya, £99 delivered. This one:
https://www.tayna.co.uk/610-200-Vart...92--P3200.html Fitted it up no problem, case was identical size/shape to the OEM and ratings all within a few percent too. Car started and runs normally, all electrics work normally too, its as though nothing ever happened. So far so good Thanks for all the advice on this thread. |
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Flat battery- car stuck in shut down cycle.
What the hell am i doing on a 3 year old thread? Well it's the same car, I bought from Mondie, last May and it has been brilliant other than getting the rear diff done and some new front discs/pads.
Issue battery is emptying itself in about 5 hours. That's a hell of rate. Started last week, dead overnight, thought it was unusual but hey, it's winter and was below zero last week. Charged it back to health off the car. Drained again overnight. The battery was the one Mondie installed at the end of this thread the silver varta. I was stuck and figured 3 years is a bit short of life so I went round to Halfrauds and bought a 019 AGM 95AH (Halfrauds brand Yausa) for the Ouch of £184 but it has a 5 year guarantee so we'll see. Knowing what fun coding can be so I bought to a OBDeleven Pro for £99 and have been impressed so far. What is currently happening with the car is: Power Off take key out (press the internal alarm off so i can sit in the car and watch) Powers down as normal then: Various relays click inside and out (don't know where, traffic noise ouside car) Parking light red (P) on dash lights with the P on the gear selector and the red parking brake light. 20-30 seconds later Parking light and gearbox goes out A pump runs under the bonnet for 20 seconds(don't know what but suspect this is what the big battery drain is) Then the parking brake light goes out and then 20 seconds later the whole cycle starts again. Car runs/drives fine, just won't go to sleep. I did several full dumps with OBD Eleven. I even swapped out the 3 door handle sensors just in case it was that (Mondie had provided replacements but I had never been bothered before, done now, no difference) Main errors from the dump below: 1) There is also no communication with the Battery control module, either it failed before? or I broke it swapping out the battery (possible but unlikely). I've ordered a new one just in case. And yes the yellow/purplish cable is correctly installed on the negative terminal/BECM No 19 Gateway has 3 U105000 - Battery monitoring control module No Communication U104900 - Optical data bus Open circuit U011200 - Lost Communication With Battery Energy Control Module "B" static So I await the new BECM but it might not be that. I know Mondie had the parking brake switch replaced (I have the old one as well) and the fact this weird cycle starts and ends with the parking brake suggests it might be a faulty switch (again). And what is with the optical data bus open circuit? I'll try disconnecting the parking brake switch tomorrow and see if the cycle continues but I suspect that will just throw up different errors. Many thanks for reading so far, thoughts welcome. Here is the full OBDeleven data log Date: 2019-11-24 14:15 VIN: WAUZZZ4H2AN003873 Car: Audi A8 Year: 2010 Body type: Saloon Engine: CDSB 258 kW (351 HP) 4.2 l Mileage: 132070 KM --------------------------------------------------------------- 01 Engine Control Module 1 System description: 4.2TDI EDC17 Software number: 4H0907409 Software version: 0010 Hardware number: 4H0907409 Hardware version: H04 ODX name: EV_ECM42TDI1114H0907409 ODX version: 001016 Long coding: 0106002C290F0268 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 02 Transmission Control Module System description: 0BL 42 TDIRdW Software number: 4H1927158Q Software version: 1008 Hardware number: 0BL927156E Hardware version: H08 ODX name: EV_TCMALX51011 ODX version: 001013 Long coding: 001111 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 03 Brakes 1 System description: ESP PREMIUM Software number: 4H0907379A Software version: 0151 Hardware number: 4H0907379A Hardware version: H08 Serial number: -------------- ODX name: EV_ESPPremi ODX version: 004012 Long coding: E4EAA20027574500E300 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 04 Steering Angle Sender Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 05 Kessy System description: BCM2 2.0 Software number: 4H0907064DB Software version: 0510 Hardware number: 4H0907064L Hardware version: H13 Long coding: 05170001000000000000 Subsystems: System description: FBSAUDID4 IDG Software number: 4H0959754DD Software version: 0083 Hardware version: H71 Serial number: 0815000116280013 System description: J764 ELV MLB Software number: 4H0905852A Software version: 0042 Hardware version: H37 Serial number: 0210000036533003 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 06 Seat Adjustment Passenger Side System description: MEM-BFS Software number: 4H0959760D Software version: 0115 Hardware number: 4H0959760D Hardware version: H07 Serial number: 00001010115765 Long coding: 0038320000043201000001010101112131313333283333 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 08 Air Conditioning System description: Klima 4 Zonen Software number: 4H0820043D Software version: 0040 Hardware number: 4H0820043D Hardware version: H12 ODX name: EV_AirCondiFront ODX version: 001048 Long coding: 386100BE0C Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 09 Central Electrics System description: BCM1 2.0 Software number: 4H0907063G Software version: 0092 Hardware number: 4H0907063 Hardware version: H09 Serial number: 00000000446251 Long coding: 0907201009749FE1AB810007A0001800009DC30A8B00012180 0108542F00 Subsystems: System description: WWS641 100218 Software number: 4H2955119C Software version: 0040 Hardware version: H32 Serial number: 100223010130 Long coding: 0045F7 System description: RLS Software number: 8K0955559 Software version: 0003 Hardware version: H04 Serial number: 10866911 Long coding: 025D5B System description: E1 - LDS Software number: 4H0941531B Software version: 0044 Hardware version: H07 Serial number: 07 04 2010 00000037 System description: EHL2 V07.03 Software number: 4H0907410 Software version: 0020 Hardware version: H30 Serial number: 0000001805568R05A505 System description: A31 LED Mod1L Software number: 4H0907472A Software version: 0002 Hardware version: H01 Serial number: 000000-0000-0000 Long coding: 100000 System description: A27 LED Mod1R Software number: 4H0907472A Software version: 0002 Hardware version: H01 Serial number: 000000-0000-0000 Long coding: 100000 System description: EVLS-SG Software number: 4H0907705H Software version: 0275 Hardware version: H08 Serial number: WA091314000000029837 Long coding: 020300 System description: AQ_Hum_Sensor Software number: 4H0907658 Software version: 0002 Hardware version: H02 Serial number: F3080B15000000000001 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 10 Parking Assistance 2 System description: PARKHILFE ACC Software number: 4H0919475C Software version: 0011 Hardware number: 4H0919475C Hardware version: H05 Serial number: 44831011006265 ODX name: EV_AU64XParkiAssis2 ODX version: 005003 Long coding: 300902 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 11 Engine Control Module 2 System description: 4.2TDI EDC17 Software number: 4H0907409 Software version: 0010 Hardware number: 4H0907409 Hardware version: H04 ODX name: EV_ECM42TDI2114H0907409 ODX version: 001016 Long coding: 0106002C290F0268 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 13 Adaptive Cruise Control System description: ACC3 Software number: 4H0907561A Software version: 0160 Hardware number: 4H0907561 Hardware version: H15 Serial number: 00000000000000 ODX name: EV_AdaptCruisContrAU64X ODX version: 001012 Long coding: 3404010201 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 15 Airbag System description: Airbag10.43 Software number: 4H0959655B Software version: 0026 Hardware number: 4H0959655B Hardware version: H22 Serial number: 003G10011PW- ODX name: EV_AirbaAU10BPAAU64X ODX version: 001014 Long coding: 30314246304230303037554A305234483053 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 16 Steering Column Electronics System description: Lenks.Modul Software number: 4H0953568A Software version: 0007 Hardware number: 4H0953568A Hardware version: H07 Serial number: 90815IKQ0000J Long coding: 0000BC Subsystems: System description: E221 - MFL Software number: 4H0951528 Software version: 0009 Hardware version: H04 Serial number: 01 03 2010 33005292 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 17 Dash Board System description: TDieGBACC---- Software number: 4H0920950A Software version: 0185 Hardware number: 4H0920950A Hardware version: H30 Serial number: 6580305105930160� ODX name: EV_RBD4K ODX version: 004033 Long coding: 33060800D7002600010000 Subsystems: System description: Analoguhr D4 Software number: 4H0919204F Software version: 0210 Hardware version: H04 Serial number: 1100417001054 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 19 Gateway System description: J533--Gateway Software number: 4H0907468F Software version: 0213 Hardware number: 4H0907468C Hardware version: H07 Serial number: 00000000014345 ODX name: EV_GatewUDS ODX version: 001025 Long coding: 00C1037D00 Subsystems: System description: J367-BDM Software number: 4H0915181 Software version: 0130 Hardware version: H07 Serial number: 00000000005640101407 Trouble codes: U105000 - Battery monitoring control module No Communication Intermittent Date: 2019-11-21 00:33:10 Mileage: 132070 km Priority: 2 Malfunction frequency counter: 1 Unlearning counter: 248 Voltage terminal 30: 14.5 V Voltage terminal 15: 14.4 V Control module temperature: 22 °C System status: Terminal 15 on Terminal 15 status: On Terminal 15 status via CAN: On IN ZAS_Kl_X: On Engine running: On IN ESP_Stillstandsflag: standstill detected Datenfeld: 0 U104900 - Optical data bus Open circuit Intermittent Date: 2019-11-21 01:12:21 Mileage: 132070 km Priority: 2 Malfunction frequency counter: 1 Unlearning counter: 248 Voltage terminal 30: 11.9 V Voltage terminal 15: 0.0 V Control module temperature: 27 °C System status: Awake_Timer_active Terminal 15 status: Off Terminal 15 status via CAN: Off IN ZAS_Kl_X: Off Engine running: Off IN ESP_Stillstandsflag: standstill detected Datenfeld: 0 U011200 - Lost Communication With Battery Energy Control Module "B" static --------------------------------------------------------------- 20 High Beam Assistance System description: FLA Software number: 8K0857511E Software version: 0004 Hardware number: 8K0857511E Hardware version: H04 Long coding: 04028B646E6E645A5A253D3E Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 22 All Wheel Control System description: 4 Wheel Drive Software number: 4H0907163 Software version: 0005 Hardware number: 4H0907163 Hardware version: H11 Serial number: 0012041000010713 ODX name: EV_AllWheelDiffeQSPFR ODX version: 003017 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 28 Climate Control Unit Rear System description: Klima Fond Software number: 4H0919158D Software version: 0040 Hardware number: 4H0919158D Hardware version: H11 ODX name: EV_AirCondiHeck ODX version: 001038 Long coding: 0800000000 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 30 Special Function 2 System description: STS Software number: 4H0907440 Software version: 0020 Hardware number: 4H0907440 Hardware version: H06 Serial number: 00000000003669 Long coding: 01010101000000000000000202 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 34 Ride Control System System description: LUFE-DAEMPFER Software number: 4H0907553B Software version: 0095 Hardware number: 4H0907553 Hardware version: H16 Serial number: �‡0�€ ODX name: EV_AirSuspe ODX version: 003017 Long coding: 008002 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 36 Seat Adjustment Driver Side System description: MEM-FS Software number: 4H0959760D Software version: 0115 Hardware number: 4H0959760D Hardware version: H07 Serial number: 00001010115805 Long coding: 00383B0000053201000001010101112131313333203333 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 3B Sensor Electronics System description: SARA 6D red Software number: 4H0907637A Software version: 0015 Hardware number: 4H0907637A Hardware version: H02 Serial number: EJ1BPA37003GK00000000000 ODX name: EV_SARA ODX version: 006014 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 42 Door Electronics Driver Side System description: TSG FA Software number: 4H0959793E Software version: 0158 Hardware number: 4H0959793E Hardware version: H02 Serial number: 0000103409803 Long coding: 011F1E215E2162C202000007 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 46 Central Module Comfort System System description: BCM2 2.0 Software number: 4H0907064DB Software version: 0510 Hardware number: 4H0907064L Hardware version: H13 Serial number: 0129711341 Long coding: 011B0E2200397D85BB2007F28E000000000000000000000000 0000000000 Subsystems: System description: GTO BF Software number: 4H0959719 Software version: 0070 Hardware version: H01 Serial number: 00000000000000002453 System description: DWA-Sensor Software number: 4H0951177 Software version: 0010 Hardware version: H01 System description: LIN BACKUP HO Software number: 1K0951605C Software version: 1501 Hardware version: H05 System description: J245 PS50.028 Software number: 4H0959591 Software version: 0006 Hardware version: H06 Serial number: WOO10009QT$ Long coding: 001F00 System description: J505-FSH Software number: 4H0907133A Software version: 0045 Hardware version: H06 Serial number: 00000000000000000477 System description: Dachelektroni Software number: 4H0947135K Software version: 0070 Hardware version: H11 Serial number: A2010000000000073713 Long coding: 010000 System description: V252 PS009 Software number: 4H0959591A Software version: 0004 Hardware version: H05 Serial number: WOO10002OWX Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 47 Sound System System description: BO G3 D4 Software number: 4H0035465A Software version: 0150 Hardware number: 4H0035465 Hardware version: H06 Serial number: 0010277 Subsystems: System description: BO D4 SLAVE Software number: 4H0035466 Software version: 0180 Hardware version: H51 Serial number: 00302100000429 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 52 Door Electronics Passenger Side System description: TSG BF Software number: 4H0959792E Software version: 0158 Hardware number: 4H0959792E Hardware version: H02 Serial number: 0000103565148 Long coding: 011F1E215E2162C202000007 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 53 Parking Brake System description: EPB-4 Software number: 4H0907801C Software version: 0009 Hardware number: 4H0907801A Hardware version: H03 Serial number: 00000000001772 ODX name: EV_ParkiBrake ODX version: 001015 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 56 Radio System description: Radio U DAB Software number: 4E0035061L Software version: 0085 Hardware number: 4E0035061 Hardware version: H46 Serial number: 014CR0A7504809 Long coding: 010103010000000001 Trouble codes: 03455 - Function limitation due to received malfunction value Intermittent Priority: 6 Frequency counter: 1 Driving cycle: 248 Mileage: 132070 km Date: 2019-11-21 00:32:38 --------------------------------------------------------------- 57 TV Tuner System description: HybridTV-DVB Software number: 4F0919129G Software version: 0550 Hardware number: 4F0919129 Hardware version: H07 Serial number: 76301300189001 Long coding: 03010000 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 5F Information Control Unit 1 System description: H-BNT-EU Software number: 4H0035670L Software version: 0637 Hardware number: 4H0035670 Hardware version: H48 Serial number: 410DV0A7554736 Long coding: 020101000001F9EF6D128B1E00000003000001000000000000 Subsystems: System description: ECE 2013 Software number: 8R0060884AR Software version: 1505 System description: DU8 D4 SV NB Software number: 4H0919604B Software version: 0021 Hardware version: H44 Serial number: AUZ8ZDA110038WE System description: E380 BDT D4 Software number: 4H2919600H Software version: 0065 Hardware version: H09 Serial number: 00000000007461 System description: CD-Database Software number: 8R0060961 Software version: 1886 Trouble codes: 02067 - Optical data bus unauthorized awakening request Intermittent --------------------------------------------------------------- 62 Door Electronics Rear Left System description: TSG HL Software number: 4H0959795A Software version: 0158 Hardware number: 4H0959795A Hardware version: H04 Serial number: 0000103566105 Long coding: 010F1E21402162C202000007 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 6C Camera System Rear View System description: SG Rueckfahrkamera Software number: 4H0907441 Software version: 0030 Hardware number: 4H0907441 Serial number: 525PA8-J03D0D3 Coding: 1022002 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 6D Deck Lid Control Unit System description: HDSG-Modul Software number: 4H0959107F Software version: 0632 Hardware number: 4H0959107F Hardware version: H11 Serial number: 103000015 ODX name: EV_DeckLidContrUnit ODX version: 001023 Long coding: 0200044000 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 6F Central Module Comfort System 2 System description: ALM Software number: 4H0907412 Software version: 0004 Hardware number: 4H0907412 Hardware version: H05 Serial number: 000000004905 ODX name: EV_Ambie ODX version: 001008 Long coding: 020000 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 72 Door Electronics Rear Right System description: TSG HR Software number: 4H0959795A Software version: 0158 Hardware number: 4H0959795A Hardware version: H04 Serial number: 0000103566096 Long coding: 010F1E21402162C202000007 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 81 Gear Shift Control Module System description: GSM-RL Software number: 4H2927731 Software version: 0083 Hardware number: 4H2927731 Hardware version: H07 Serial number: SN100317 0079 ODX name: EV_GSM2x3Mono ODX version: 001017 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 85 On-Board Camera System description: DPC-SG Software number: 4H0907217A Software version: 0016 Hardware number: 4H0907217A Hardware version: H20 Serial number: 26213002542100000000010089 ODX name: EV_OnBoardCamerDPC ODX version: 001007 Long coding: E9040000 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 88 Multi Contour Seat Driver Side System description: IVB Software number: 4H0907182C Software version: 0027 Hardware number: 4H0907182C Hardware version: H03 Serial number: 00449500005501 ODX name: EV_IVBDriveSideFrnt ODX version: 001003 Long coding: 670FF2 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 89 Multi Contour Seat Passenger Side System description: IVB Software number: 4H0907182C Software version: 0027 Hardware number: 4H0907182C Hardware version: H03 Serial number: 00448453180901 ODX name: EV_IVBPasseSideFrnt ODX version: 001003 Long coding: 270FF2 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 8B Adaptive Cruise Control 2 System description: ACC3 Software number: 4H0907541A Software version: 0160 Hardware number: 4H0907541 Hardware version: H15 Serial number: 00000000000000 ODX name: EV_AdaptCruisContr2AU64X ODX version: 001010 Long coding: 3404010201 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 8C Battery Energy Control Module Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 8E Image Processing Electronics System description: BV-SG Software number: 4H0907107 Software version: 0008 Hardware number: 4H0907107 Hardware version: H25 Serial number: 00004005190310769100460000 ODX name: EV_BVS ODX version: 001007 Long coding: 01A28200 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found --------------------------------------------------------------- 8F Pretensioner Front Left System description: RGS-VL Software number: 4H0980945 Software version: 0060 Hardware number: 4H0980945 Hardware version: H04 ODX name: EV_RGS_L ODX version: 002006 Long coding: 00660600031F037E000308004248D2000000 Trouble codes: No trouble codes found 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